666. The book of revelation calls 666 a Man's number and the wild beast represents an attemped world government. That is consistent with the various beasts in the book of Daniel. The "wild beast" of revelation who's number is 666 is not Satan the devil.
The image you've created though speaks to me in realistic terms. When I look at it, I only think about little girls with cell phones and little boys on xbox live. Divorced parents, anger issues, lack of compassion and moral values. In spite of the misconception of the beasts number, the work of art makes a greater statement about how easily Satan himself can manipulate humankind. All he needs to do is start when they're young enough.
That certainly would be one way of interpreting it. Personally, I see depictions of "Satan" as symbols for individuality and personal power, so I'd view it differently. But interesting interpretation nevertheless.
God hates Satan according to the bible. Individuality and Personal power? If the Bible uses Satan as a symbol for individuality and personal power, then that would mean 2 things at least.
1. God hates individuality and personal power.
2. In the end God will destroy all personal power and individuality.
Wrong for the following reasons.
1. If God hated Satan (or personal power) He would not give Moses, Aaron, David, Peter, Jesus, and all those OTHERS power beyond what's normal. 2 Corinthians 4:7
God would also withhold knowledge and wisdom. Solomon, David, Paul, Moses are good examples of how that is not true.
God Loves individuality. John 3:16 Acts 10:34
34 At this Peter opened his mouth and said: “For a certainty I perceive that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the person that fears him and works righteousness is acceptable to him.
It's true God will destroy Satan and those who do not meet his righteous standards Revelation 20:10. But Individuality and "personal power" will endure forever. And I would say "thank you" for the "interpretation" but it's not an interpretation, its just what the Bible says. Anyone who reads the bible will understand the truth about it. . . with the exception of those who don't deserve the greater understanding. - Mattew 11:25. I couldn't make this stuff up.
Yes, according to the bible. I'm not talking about the bible, because it doesn't hold much relevance for me. But I'll humor you and go with it. See, if your god loves individualism, why does he have such a hard time accepting people as who and how they are? Nonbelievers, "sinners", all of that good stuff. And for that matter, since I've heard many christians say that they believe this, what about being made "perfect" in order to be allowed to enter heaven (because apparently, not being perfect would soil that place somehow)? Being made perfect necessarily includes a perfect personality, and by definition of the word "perfect" (meaning the maximally possible amount, level etc.), every character trait of everybody entering heaven would be at the same level, meaning their personalities would be made the same - perfect. Remind me, where does individuality factor into this? If he doesn't hate personal power, how come he restricts his followers, dictates what they may or may not do? Why does the bible basically speak of a lord-servant, or rather master-slave relationship with the guy? It's things like these that drove me away from that belief system.
Now, what I actually was referring to was not the bible, but LaVeyan - or non-theistic - satanism. It's actually a secular philosophy, but adopts the biblical figure of satan as a symbol representing complete and utter freedom. I can go into more detail if you wish to learn more. I'm not a LaVeyan satanist per sť, but I like adopting parts of worldviews and ideologies I happen to like, and these guys have a lot going for them.
By the way ... with "interpretation" I was referring to the second part of your comment, pertaining to what you thought the picture represents or shows (ironically, much of what you said there could also be said of religion, especially the part about "starting when they're young enough", which is something christianity seems to do quite a bit, indoctrination of children is done in many denominations and personally, I consider it child abuse). That's not in the bible, and you have no way of knowing if what you saw in it is what the artist intended, so it is, indeed, merely an interpretation.
And lastly ... "Anyone who reads the bible will understand the truth about it" Oh, I agree. Anyone who reads it with a halfway open mind will understand that it's a collection of old texts written and propagated by primitive, misogynistic, bigoted, racist and hateful middle-easterners, with the exclusive purpose of gaining power over the uneducated masses. The fact that it still works to this day says quite a few things about the state of our society.
That depends heavily on whether or not a personality trait can be mathematically quantified.
The thing with math is, on the one hand it's a language we devised to logically describe the world, on the other hand we can express things with it that have no ties to or bearing on reality at all (an n-dimensional space would be an example; it's perfectly mathematically viable to have a space with an arbitrary number of dimensions - that doesn't mean such a space necessarily exists in reality). As such, not every problem or argument can be solved mathematically.
OH!!! My bad dude. If we weren't talking about the same Satan, then I apologize. The reason I FIGURED you were talking about the Biblical Satan was because of the number on his arm 666 (a direct biblical reference).
The two Satans are different because one is a figurative concept and the other is literally an Angelic spirit entity, and that's where OUR misunderstanding comes into play. The Satan you know leads people to knowledge, insight and wisdom, and the Satan I know leads people to Death. I'm glad we got that clarified, and the next time I try reasoning with someone from the Scriptures, I'll make sure it's someone who hates the bible. And the next time YOU try to make accusations about the bible you should cite the scriptures that support your beliefs about the bible. After all, if by any chance the bible actually IS Almighty Jehovah's word, you wouldn't want to mistake it's true meaning would you?
As far as your accusations about ALL of the 66 books: primitive, misogynistic, bigoted, racist and hateful middle-easterners, with the exclusive purpose of gaining power over the uneducated masses.
Simply put, You don't know who Jehovah is. The creator of blacks, whites, Asians, middle-easterners, WOMAN. Racist and Misogynistic? Who creates things just to hate them? You don't know who Jesus is, the one who told his servants that the "greatest" among human kind will be those who serve others and and show love and impartiality. You don't know about the female ministers and prophetesses. You don't know JACK about the bible. It's almost like you were taught about the bible through the news, the internet, maybe some College teachers and perhaps judgmental parents who didn't really read it themselves. So I'll make a deal with you. I won't insult your beliefs and you don't insult mine, because I can find EVERY scripture in The holy bible to make you look like a stupid gullible sheep, and you know I can. You saw my last comment.
Well, direct biblical references can be adopted just as well by whomever, can they not? Just like with any other book. Guess that's what LaVey did, as well.
"After all, if by any chance the bible actually IS Almighty Jehovah's word, you wouldn't want to mistake it's true meaning would you?" Sounds an awful lot like Pascale's wager. What if I'm wrong, huh? I saw a great response to that topic in a vlog once ... I guess if it actually is, I'm screwed after I die, but at least I lived my life until then to the fullest. But it's a good thing the odds are with me here.
"Simply put, You don't know who Jehovah is. The creator of blacks, whites, Asians, middle-easterners, WOMAN. Racist and Misogynistic? Who creates things just to hate them?" True, I don't. Just as I don't know who the boogeyman is. Your argumentation works fine here, but only if you actually assume that those books were *not* written by mere men. Which, in all likelihood, they were. And even if not ... if your creator created all the different peoples of the earth, how come he favors a small bunch of tribes in one of the most unimportant corners of the earth and gives them leave to commit genocides, enslave anyone not of their "race", take the women of their vanquished foes as trophies ... I could go on. How come he doesn't even seem to know that most other cultures outside of the immediate surroundings of that middle-eastern locale exist at all(take China, for example)? And no, I won't quote the exact verses, because I honestly can't be assed to remember precisely where those things where stated. I'm not that much of a bible nut, you know. I could of course look it up if this was an actual debate, but I'm sure you know perfectly well what parts I'm talking about, do you not? You've pretty much proven that much.
"You don't know JACK about the bible." Actually, I do. I've read the whole thing from cover to cover. But as I said, I don't remember the precise location and content of every single verse. I couldn't tell you precisely, without looking it up, exactly on which page of the Silmarillion Melkor stole the silmarils, either, despite having read the book numerous times and loving it to death (like all of Tolkien's work, but that's beside the point). That doesn't change the fact that I have, in fact, read the book. Without any pre-formed notions or conclusions, mind you. And I was, frankly, appalled by what I read.
" I can find EVERY scripture in The holy bible to make you look like a stupid gullible sheep, and you know I can." Yes, I believe you. You probably could. But they key phrase here is "make you look like". That doesn't mean much more than that you're talented at quote-mining.
" I won't insult your beliefs and you don't insult mine" If I have given you the impression that you have insulted my beliefs, I apologize. You did not. That would be a hard thing to do, because I don't hold beliefs. I didn't mean to insult yours, either, and unless you take disagreeing with them as an insult, I don't think I did. I merely stated my opinion about the whole thing. Unless, of yourse, you took offense at my description of the authors, but if you don't actually believe that the books were written by mortal men, you should have no cause to be offended.
Look dude, you've made your point: You hate the bible because of how Humans treat each other and HIDE behind the bible, using it as an excuse for being terrible. But if you understood the book you would understand that
1. Jehovah Does not "favor" any one. Acts 10:34
2. Armageddon will solve ALL of those problems. And not just for ONE country. The whole world. Revelation 21: 1-4
3. Most Church Doctrines about the bible are lies. 2 Tim 4:3 Matthew 7:23
4. And the bible acknowledges that its books are written by men, but INSPIRED by God. 2 Tim 3:14.
You're like a defense attorney for Satanism who didn't understand the affidavit. Nobody cares what you read if you can't make a solid case, dude. You know those little brainwashed judgmental little high-school born-again bible thumpers who run around telling everyone they're going to "burn in hell"? I'm not one of those. I'm better educated than that. Oh yeah, and I don't MEMORIZE the precise locations of scriptures either. I have just been properly trained how to find everything about anything anywhere at any time in the bible. And until you've been trained that way, You haven't found the truth.